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[Ancient Demise]

It seems like there is a huge gap between the loyalty rewards, both in terms of content and in prices.

By my count the minimum you need to have spent for each reward is
$30 6.95 minimum = CN9-AH
$30 minimum = AS7-S
$120 minimum = King Crab
$360 minimum = 3x Mad Dog
I could be wrong with those prices but I do not think I am too far off and the point remains the same.

There is no way to get the mad dog without getting the king crab, meaning you must already be a top tier x2 to get the mad dog. Maybe the reward should include a gold mad dog.

What about the players who bought at least $120 of clan mechs between the two waves (or at least 4 a la carte) but cannot afford to upgrade to the warhawk pack/buy the gargoyle? These people have spent a much as the next lowest reward but do not get anything out of it.

I agree that there should be a "ultimate" reward and the reward given is fair, but buying 12 mechs is a LOT of money not everyone can afford. I just ask that you consider a "normal" clan reward. Maybe a single mad dog of the buyers choice, with or without the cbill bonus?

And before anyone asks, this is not a scheme for me to get a free mad dog. I am more interested in the hellbringer anyways. But it does seem like something is missing from the loyalty rewards... (unless the "ultimate" reward is just some devious plot to get all the clanners desparate for the mad dog to pay extra for the warhawk, but I think PGI is trying to go more customer friendly with this)

Edited by Ancient Demise, 18 September 2014 - 04:37 AM.

[M3 SABLE]

Someone... Pls... Give this guy a golden Mad Dog...

It tears me up to witness this.

Edited by Unikron, 18 September 2014 - 04:11 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

And it is why they set it up the way they did. They are equating money spent, with loyalty or support. I would like a King Crab... But I am just not going to spend the money to get this one. Just like I didn't spend $60-$80 to have a Battlemaster when Phoenix was unveiled. I now have Hellslinger in my Mechbays though.

Its seems fair enough to me.

[deadmedo]

I think its minumum 6.95$ for the CN9-AH (lowest MC package).

The rewards should be divided by how much money you spent. Some people probably spent lot of money buying MC to get Hero mechs, mech bays, paints and so on and they didn't buy the Top Tier Packages.

[Joseph Mallan]

deadmedo, on 18 September 2014 - 04:19 AM, said:

I think its minumum 6.95$ for the CN9-AH (lowest MC package).

The rewards should be divided by how much money you spent. Some people probably spent lot of money buying MC to get Hero mechs, mech bays, paints and so on and they didn't buy the Top Tier Packages.

This would be me. But PGI sets the requirements, and if I don't fit them, I don't get the shiny, Facts of life.

Still happy for what they will be giving me for just being here.

[Garandos]

deadmedo, on 18 September 2014 - 04:19 AM, said:

I think its minumum 6.95$ for the CN9-AH (lowest MC package).

The rewards should be divided by how much money you spent. Some people probably spent lot of money buying MC to get Hero mechs, mech bays, paints and so on and they didn't buy the Top Tier Packages.

Indeed, the CN is handed out for ANY sum of MC purchased, not bound to a pre-sale pack of sorts.

[Dark DeLaurel]

Ancient Demise, on 18 September 2014 - 04:07 AM, said:

It seems like there is a huge gap between the loyalty rewards, both in terms of content and in prices.

By my count the minimum you need to have spent for each reward is
$30 minimum = CN9-AH
$30 minimum = AS7-S
$120 minimum = King Crab
$360 minimum = 3x Mad Dog
I could be wrong with those prices but I do not think I am too far off and the point remains the same.

There is no way to get the mad dog without getting the king crab, meaning you must already be a top tier x2 to get the mad dog. Maybe the reward should include a gold mad dog.

What about the players who bought at least $120 of clan mechs between the two waves (or at least 4 a la carte) but cannot afford to upgrade to the warhawk pack/buy the gargoyle? These people have spent a much as the next lowest reward but do not get anything out of it.

I agree that there should be a "ultimate" reward and the reward given is fair, but buying 12 mechs is a LOT of money not everyone can afford. I just ask that you consider a "normal" clan reward. Maybe a single mad dog of the buyers choice, with or without the cbill bonus?

And before anyone asks, this is not a scheme for me to get a free mad dog. I am more interested in the hellbringer anyways. But it does seem like something is missing from the loyalty rewards... (unless the "ultimate" reward is just some devious plot to get all the clanners desparate for the mad dog to pay extra for the warhawk, but I think PGI is trying to go more customer friendly with this)

Actually it is 6.95$ for the CN9-AH as that is the cheapest MC package the rest look correct. But I see everyone is overlooking the other rewards like 2 million C-Bills and a Mech bay worth 300 MC just for having played 100 battles from Sept 17/13-Sept 17/14.

[Ancient Demise]

I am not saying there should not be other rewards. I am just arguing for a normal clan reward before the ultimate clan reward.

And the 100 match thing does not require any money spent so iI did not include it.

[Olunn]

morale of the story = clanners get everything. Some people, me included, have legendary founder, phoenix overlord and smaller clan purchases. no mad dawg for me. sad face.

[Remarius]

So I get all the rewards.

Feels odd that you're complaining about free things...

Wondering how you equate my Golden Daishi (includes Masakari Package) into that scale?

[Dark DeLaurel]

Olunn, on 18 September 2014 - 04:44 AM, said:

morale of the story = clanners get everything. Some people, me included, have legendary founder, phoenix overlord and smaller clan purchases. no mad dawg for me. sad face.

No Mad Dog, but you are getting the Cent and Atlas along with a Mech bay for each and a spare one for giggles.

[yalk]

I would be totally happy with a SINGLE Regular NON Cbill boosted MadDog Prime for my previous plebeian Clan purchases (Summoner + Alá carts)
Then make me wait to get the other 2 with MC/Cbills to master it


Come on, it wouldn't have unique geometry, wouldn't have unique Camo, wouldn't be an (I) version, wouldn't have a Cbill boost

[orcrist86]

You know that the value of everything given up to and including the king crab is 120.20 right? So you're getting a one get one reward up to that point.

[Ancient Demise]

Olunn, on 18 September 2014 - 04:44 AM, said:

morale of the story = clanners get everything. Some people, me included, have legendary founder, phoenix overlord and smaller clan purchases. no mad dawg for me. sad face.

What? But.. its a mad dog and you're IS. Maybe there should be an ultimate IS reward with 3 king crabs but that's not why I made this thread so idk. Again, I am not arguing against any other rewards and I am not complaining about the rewards in place or that I am getting free IS stuff.

I think you guys are missing the point of the thread. For those who cannot afford (do not / will not have the monies) to buy all 12 clan mechs for PGI's own (not player suggested afaik) "ultimate" reward but have spent "enough" on clan mechs, PGI should consider an intermediate reward.

If you bought a gold mech you can probably afford the gargoyle.

yalk, on 18 September 2014 - 04:52 AM, said:

I would be totally happy with a SINGLE Regular NON Cbill boosted MadDog Prime for my previous plebeian Clan purchases (Summoner + Alá carts)
Then make me wait to get the other 2 with MC/Cbills to master it


Come on, it wouldn't have unique geometry, wouldn't have unique Camo, wouldn't be an (I) version, wouldn't have a Cbill boost

Seems reasonable to me.

[Griggio]

Considering that they are matching dollar amounts spent on A la Cartes towards upgrading wave one, that's pretty generous in itself. Someone who purchased 4 A la Cartes individually since wave 1 hit could have potentially dropped $220 making it a $20 dollar upgrade to max out their package, collect the fluff then grab and upgrade their Wave 2 pack as they got more money coming in.

Sure you may not get your Mad Dog on the 23rd, but you would still eventually get it before the MC and way before the C-bill release and get all the Clan Faction skins, colors, and fluff minus the early adopters rewards.


I could see maybe some MC rewards thrown in for people who purchase the lower tier packages enough to pick up camos and some decent colors and even takea good chunk out a hero, but free mechs for every lower tier purchase just seems over the top to me.

[Reitrix]

This topic is getting really really old.

They're giving bonus stuff for thoise that did shell out for the biggest packs. Why *should* those who don't spend that kind of money get the same rewards?

The whole thing stinks of wanting what the other guy has but not wanting to put in the effort to get it.

Let me spell it out as simply as possible:
MAD DOG COMES OUT FOR CBILLS LATER, WE ONLY GET IT A FEW MONTHS EARLY.
KING CRAB COMES OUT FOR CBILLS AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FREE ONE IS INJECTED.

I'd honestly rather Russ didn't tell us about any of the bonus stuff, just so we wouldn't have these kinds of threads cluttering up the Forums.
Figures that a "Thank-you" to big spenders generates so much rage from those who won't/can't buy big packages.

Edited by Reitrix, 18 September 2014 - 06:10 AM.

[Ancient Demise]

Reitrix, on 18 September 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:

This topic is getting really really old.

They're giving bonus stuff for thoise that did shell out for the biggest packs. Why *should* those who don't spend that kind of money get the same rewards?

The whole thing stinks of wanting what the other guy has but not wanting to put in the effort to get it.

Let me spell it out as simply as possible:
MAD DOG COMES OUT FOR CBILLS LATER, WE ONLY GET IT A FEW MONTHS EARLY.
KING CRAB COMES OUT FOR CBILLS AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FREE ONE IS INJECTED.

I'd honestly rather Russ didn't tell us about any of the bonus stuff, just so we wouldn't have these kinds of threads cluttering up the Forums.
Figures that a "Thank-you" to big spenders generates so much rage from those who won't/can't buy big packages.

Ancient Demise, on 18 September 2014 - 05:02 AM, said:

Again, I am not arguing against any other rewards and I am not complaining about the rewards in place or that I am getting free IS stuff.

I think you guys are missing the point of the thread. For those who cannot afford (do not / will not have the monies) to buy all 12 clan mechs for PGI's own (not player suggested afaik) "ultimate" reward but have spent "enough" on clan mechs, PGI should consider an intermediate reward.

So let PGI decide what the reward is - if it is a single mad dog next week, a free mad dog in January, mc/cbills, or something else. People who spent less should not get "what the other guy has" and I have already started that the rewards should be different.

$360 is $360, no matter how you spend it it still adds up the same. The ultimate reward requires that and that's fine. However, since there is only one clan reward and it required $360, there are some people who have spent some money on clan mechs (and can't, not won't) spend 3 times as much on clan mechs, I am simply asking PGI to consider adding a reward for people who fall under that category. Besides, the phrase "ultimate clan reward" implies it is an improvement to a "normal clan reward" that does not exist.

They don't even have to announce it right now! They could simply inject the reward when the sale period is over.
To say that it is a matter of effort is rather insulting.

[D R E A D N A U G H T]

Yes, but keep in mind who your audience is. You're going to get responses from white knights that feel that because you refuse to, or cant afford to spend at the same level as them that bassically state you are pond scum and you are not welcome in this community. Any discussion about "rewards" for you will be met with synicism and you are not to bring it up or have any open discussion about it.

You are clearly not worth the memory space your post takes up, and you need to re-evaluate your spending habits in order to gain the respect of this community.

Also, note the way in which some folks (founders, but not all) feel that they deserve special recognition when all items they were guaranteed were delivered. And now some of them demand special recognition because of their sacrifice. They will call you "entitled" for wanting to pay for a single mech, when in reality, they are defending their own entitlement with snobbish attitudes. It's a double standard that you can't really fight against here.

And that's fine. If the community doesnt want me to spend money on this game, then I won't. Their need to feel special has been satisfied as they have been looking for this type of self affirmation for some time now. I get that every now and again you need someone to tell you how awesome you are. Whatever helps you justify your position I guess.

Edited by Dread Naught, 18 September 2014 - 10:40 AM.

[Devilsfury]

Olunn, on 18 September 2014 - 04:44 AM, said:

morale of the story = clanners get everything. Some people, me included, have legendary founder, phoenix overlord and smaller clan purchases. no mad dawg for me. sad face.

Im right there with you. Founder, Overlord, 3 Clan mechs a le carte but no Mad Dog..../cry $350+ just in mechs, not including MC purchases.

[BumbleBee]

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$120 minimum = King Crab
$360 minimum = 3x Mad Dog

360/3=120
So $120 per Mad Dog.
Looks like you only get the 3xMad Dog if you spent 3x the amount to get the King Crab. Sounds fine to me.